How Powerful Do you Believe You Are?

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  1. J E Roberson

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    Hello my friends in growth. I have a question as I have noticed a trend, a slow change in the delivery of information around the topic of creating life, manifesting.

    I love to read older books. Although I don't know what life was like for authors its seems to me writing a book wasn't the in thing it is today. To me writing a book prior to the age of technology lets say late 60's give or take 20 years was not just something that was done just as a free gift or some type of career credibility.

    With that being said when you go back into the books written in the first 50 years of the 1900's on this topic i.e Wallace Wattles, Neville... You will notice the further you go back the less the physical action steps are emphasized in the process.

    As you read forward in time the balance has shifted to a heavy focus on taking action to make things happen. One early 1900's authored even hinted at this transition. She mentioned as I loosely quote, the story of Jesus and his feeding of a large group of people by multiplying enough fish and bread for a few people instantly into enough to feed thousands. She noted that he did not go door to door asking the wealthy to donate and he did not set a goal to feed many then go fish and catch a lot. Instead he used the power of mind and believe to manifest instant and directly out of the formless space of the world.

    It's interesting to think about the total power we humans are capable of. I'd love to hear some opinions? Here are some questions to ponder?

    Could humans at one time create without action?
    Is knowledge being suppressed?
    Have external factors hindered our ability to do this?
    Is taking action planted deep into the culture of a corporation ran society?
    Are these just fairy tales being passed down?

    I'd love to hear from anyone who has take a shallow or deep dive onto the area of study and please don't be limited by any box I may have placed on this conversation.
     


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    Well maybe Jesus could but I don't think any ordinary man or woman can manifest material things. I know that shamans can predict the future quite closely and we can do amazing things with our minds like astral projection and lucid dreaming (Where we can manifest things he he he he.) But in this material world mhe I don't think so.

    I don't think knowledge is being suppressed because otherwise we would have seen a viral video or something. It's not like the higher ups can control the flow of information they certainly can tint it heavily but not suppress it completely.

    I think the trend of action steps is pure market demand. People want to know the action steps. We are pragmatic in this society that is pushed by material wealth and personal success.

    What I do believe in is the fact that action steps are not that important. It's all about the vision. If you have such a strong vision for your life you will do anything to find a way. You will find the action steps even if they are not written down and if they are you will probably follow them unlike many other people.
     
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    Yeah..being from india, i have read and heard many such stories. Krishna had multiplied himself in forms of his friends , thousands of cows because they were stolen by Bhramha. Later when Krishna married 16,108 wives, again he multiplied in 16,108 forms with one palace for each queen and stayed with each queen separately. Everyone thinking Krishna is always with her, but he was everyone.

    You can read one beautiful book : Autobiography of a Yogi. There he mention about many sages he met in Himalayas who can also manifest things at will and can multiply their bodies in 2 or more forms.

    All these are called "siddhis". There are 8 kinds of siddhis. Like to make one's body large, small, heavy, light. Walk on water, fire etc..

    But be careful, especially in this vast world, if a person has attained some siddhis doesn't mean he is saint, good person. He may/may not have good intentions.

    Knowledge is not being suppressed, its being lost in want of suitable candidate. There is difference between information,knowledge and wisdom. In today's world, we have too much information, but can we say so about knowledge and wisdom ?

    I especially like this question: Is taking action planted deep into the culture of a corporation ran society?

    I am very much afraid of today's process driven organizations, corporations, society. No emotions, feelings, just machine like. Processes is required, there is no denying of it. Every successful organization has sound processes in place. But then these are getting propagated to our lives also. every aspect of our life is getting controlled by processes either made by Govt or Religious controllers or Corporations. Moving very fast towards robotic life., where a human life is called no more than a "resource".

    Regards
    Umach
     
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    Well said Umach. I've read Autobiography of a Yogi several times and completely agree with your points. I love and use technology, but I think the Internet and social media is just increasing the level of programming of our minds as to what to think, and what is important in life. People adopt compartmentalized political and spiritual beliefs such that everything they see and hear simply reinforces that one perspective, and makes them feel like they belong to something special. I think true power comes from being able to discern which of our beliefs are true and beneficial, and which are just cultural programming, and being able to look within just as much as externally.
     
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    "compartmentalized political and spiritual beliefs"
    "which of our beliefs are true and beneficial"
    "cultural programming" .


    Great sayings.

    We humans are strange creatures. Our whole actions are controlled by our thoughts. These thoughts we think are taken very consciously or with knowledge , but it takes great intro-inspection and challenging one belief and faith with great courage to understand the hint that probably we are culturally/ philosophically programmed.
    In this vast universe with billions and billion of galaxies, what is my capacity to understand it and my existence into it?


    Probably, i drifted from original question.
    Yes, knowledge is there, but then how much can one sacrifice to obtain it?
     
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    Could humans at one time create without action?
    - Yes, I believe so without a doubt. As author Graham Hancock says, we are a species with amnesia.

    Is knowledge being suppressed?
    - Yes most definitely.

    Have external factors hindered our ability to do this?
    - Yes. I believe there are many external factors that have led us to suppress and forget our true knowledge of self and the Universe. There is so much warfare on humanity, divide and conquer strategies, biological warfare, environmental, etc. It's a very long list. However, I think ultimately the answers are all within..it just has been harder to access as we've separated from nature.

    Is taking action planted deep into the culture of a corporation ran society?
    - Yes.

    Are these just fairy tales being passed down?
    - There is truth in everything, whether it be literally or figuratively.
     
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